Community Cricket Structure

[Phantom Gossiper]

With the rumours of the SCA folding over the winter, C&CCA (despite the most evenly contested season in a long time) struggling for numbers and the Hills leagues facing constant uphill battles, it makes me wonder if it's time someone like SAMCA/SACA stepped in and looked at an overhaul and restructuring of community cricket statewide.

Personally I think the state should be zoned into 3 main sections - South (A&SCA), Metro/Central (C&CCA) and North (PDCA).

Absorb clubs from Hills and SCA into the zones, and obviously re-zone existing clubs accordingly, this would create 3 strong competitions covering all major areas of the state.

Also could look to invest in clubs transitioning to turf wickets, increase the number of turf clubs and split ATCA into North and South zones?

Curious to hear peoples thoughts...

[heater31]

Don't even bother involving SACA they can't even get a review on their own competition....

[Dr Phil]

sounds glorious but its a pipe dream. however a mate who is involved with the SACA and whose opinion i wouldnt trust told me the winds of change are coming

[Tony Clifton]

Could there be an Adelaide Hard Wicket competition the same way there is an Adelaide Turf one?

[beeroclock]

Could there be an Adelaide Hard Wicket competition the same way there is an Adelaide Turf one?

Too many people would whinge about the travel.
Let's face it the only way it would be successful is if it were ran on relegation promotion system.
To be honest travel doesn't really concern myself both others would whine like a lost dog.
Ideally I'd say just do it somehow and stuff the whinges.

[The Old Fellow]

The rehack of community cricket was raised a number of years ago when SACA did the "Fry" report (from memory thats what it was called) in the last season CUSA. It was mentioned from the floor not from the consultant that the 3 tier system what was in place was not effective as the upper tier being CUSA was a toothless tiger and had no power over the associations and the main thing they did was to organise interassociation matches and sell CUSA tickets to the 20/20, 50 over and Shield matches. It was raised from the floor that for the upper tier to work the middle tier being the association boards/committees needed to disband and the upper tier to then run zoned competitions and control the competitions. When the "Fry" report was released and SACA paying big dollars for it the conclusion was to slightly change the upper tier and rename it from CUSA to SAMCA. Years on we can see that nothing has changed for the better. We dont even get tickets to the 20/20 any more.
The issue is that the associations don't want to lose their identities and who is to blame them as past history doesn't give one a sense of confidence in SAMCA or even SACA. The lastest talk is to get the metro format to mirror image the country one. We saw how that went this season, one association pulling out of the under 21's and others not wanting to play a week long competition. SAMCA need to run what the associations want not what they want.

[Phantom Gossiper]

Could there be an Adelaide Hard Wicket competition the same way there is an Adelaide Turf one?

Too many hard wicket clubs/teams, would be very difficult to manage. Would need to create 2x seperate comps.

[Phantom Gossiper]

[quote="The Old Fellow"] It was raised from the floor that for the upper tier to work the middle tier being the association boards/committees needed to disband and the upper tier to then run zoned competitions and control the competitions.quote]
Essentially what I suggested. The current format isn't working for anyone, and CUSA/SAMCA whatever they want to be called appear to hav absolutely no input or control of the associations.

Their T20 Metro comp has fallen to pieces, the inter-association matches are becoming stale.. something needs to happen..

[Tony Clifton]

Could there be an Adelaide Hard Wicket competition the same way there is an Adelaide Turf one?

Too many hard wicket clubs/teams, would be very difficult to manage. Would need to create 2x seperate comps.

How many hard wicket clubs are there?

More than Adelaide Turf? More than Amateur League footy?

[The Old Fellow]

Its not how many hard wicket clubs, its how many teams they field in seniors, juniors and in the case of the PDCA women. I think total number would be far greater than ATCA or SAAFL. CAAA is 22, PDCA is over 100, ASCA similar numbers to PDCA seniors if not more then you have the other junior associations.

[tigerpie]

SCA will still run a junior competition which is very successful by all accounts.
As for ripping up all concrete wickets....the footy clubs would never allow that, and its not economically viable.
ASCA could make a four division comp, north, south, east and west. Top teams in each play off in the finals.

[Phantom Gossiper]

SCA will still run a junior competition which is very successful by all accounts.
As for ripping up all concrete wickets....the footy clubs would never allow that, and its not economically viable.
ASCA could make a four division comp, north, south, east and west. Top teams in each play off in the finals.

Don't think anyone is saying rip up the concrete pitches.

SCA was a good junior comp when I played in it many many many moons ago! Ah those were the days.. u/14's premiers

[tigerpie]

SCA will still run a junior competition which is very successful by all accounts.
As for ripping up all concrete wickets....the footy clubs would never allow that, and its not economically viable.
ASCA could make a four division comp, north, south, east and west. Top teams in each play off in the finals.

Don't think anyone is saying rip up the concrete pitches.

SCA was a good junior comp when I played in it many many many moons ago! Ah those were the days.. u/14's premiers

Also could look to invest in clubs transitioning to turf wickets, increase the number of turf clubs and split ATCA into North and South zones.

Your post

[Aerie]

Don't even bother involving SACA they can't even get a review on their own competition....

Review attempted/thought about - too hard basket - Premier League created.

[smac]

Would a grade club listen to any conclusions of a review?

[bennymacca]

question for those out there

what does the current amateur structure look like in the metro area? i know there is adelaide turf, but i dont really know what the rest of the structure is.

[Aerie]

Would a grade club listen to any conclusions of a review?

Yes.

[smac]

Is Rocker off the committee then?

[Lightning McQueen]

Could there be an Adelaide Hard Wicket competition the same way there is an Adelaide Turf one?

Too many people would whinge about the travel.
Let's face it the only way it would be successful is if it were ran on relegation promotion system.
To be honest travel doesn't really concern myself both others would whine like a lost dog.
Ideally I'd say just do it somehow and stuff the whinges.

Yeah, when an under 16 finishes at 11:45am and has to travel from Elizabeth to Lonsdale for a 1pm start in his senior game, how dare he complain.

The PDCA has expanded nearly to their geographical limits spanning from Fitzroy, to Tea Tree Gully to Dublin, I t think any of their clubs would be too interested in a statewide competition.

[Arch44]

Having played in Adelaide Turf and taken my son from school cricket to grade cricket for Prospect after I stopped playing I always thought that travel just comes with playing sport. You just do it. Maybe I am in the minority?