Duromine v EC Stack v clen

[Squids]

What's best?

[Q.]

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[Squids]

What is best?

[Q.]

A calorie deficit is best.

Duromine is just an appetite suppressant.

An EC stack is no good as ephedrine is illegal in Australia.

And clenbuterol is nasty shit.

And all three are on ASADA's banned list

[dedja]

Hook, line and sinker Q ...

[Squids]

What about AOD9604, is that any good?

[Q.]

Hook, line and sinker Q ...

I was hungry.

[kickinit]

What about AOD9604, is that any good?

It will win you a brownlow

[Psyber]

A small contribution to the brief debate above from a peer reviewed source: https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2014/200 ... experience

Abstract
Objective: To describe the epidemiology and toxicity of clenbuterol in exposures reported to the NSW Poisons Information Centre (NSWPIC).

Design and setting: Retrospective observational study analysing data from all calls about clenbuterol exposure recorded in the NSWPIC database from 1 January 2004 to 31 December 2012. The NSWPIC coversthe Australian jurisdictions New South Wales, Tasmania and the Australian Capital Territory 24 hours a day and provides after-hours cover for the rest of Australia for 7 nights each fortnight.

Main outcome measures: Total number of exposures, source of call (hospital, health care worker, member of the public), time from exposure to call, reasons for drug use, clinical features and advice given.

Results: Callers reported 63 exposures to clenbuterol, with a dramatic increase from three in 2008 to 27 in 2012. Of the 63 calls, 35 were from hospital, two from paramedics, one from general practice and 21 direct from the public. At least 53 patients (84%) required hospitalisation. The commonest reasons for use were bodybuilding and slimming. The most common features were tachycardia (24 patients), gastrointestinal disturbance (16) and tremor (11). Exposure was also associated with cardiotoxicity including one cardiac arrest in a 21-year-old man.

Conclusion: Although a well recognised doping issue among elite athletes, clenbuterol use has spread out into the general public, especially during 2012, and should be considered in patients using bodybuilding or slimming products who present with protracted sympathomimetic features. The potential for misuse of this substance requires reconsideration of its current poison schedule registration and its availability.

[Q.]

Clenbuterol is a celebrity favourite.

[Q.]

What about AOD9604, is that any good?

Please don't. These are still classified as research chems and there still isn't enough comprehensive knowledge on negative side effects.

[kickinit]

What about AOD9604, is that any good?

Please don't. These are still classified as research chems and there still isn't enough comprehensive knowledge on negative side effects.

James Hird will tell you different

[Bum Crack]

Is DMAA banned in Australia totally or only by ASADA?

[Q.]

Is DMAA banned in Australia totally or only by ASADA?

It is now a scheduled prohibited substance in Australia.

Been on WADA's banned list for a while.

[Bum Crack]

Is DMAA banned in Australia totally or only by ASADA?

It is now a scheduled prohibited substance in Australia.

Been on WADA's banned list for a while.

Cheers

[Johno6]

got a couple mates on clen, will they die?

[Q.]

got a couple mates on clen, will they die?

If not now, they will eventually.

[Johno6]

whats the pros v cons for clen?

[Q.]

whats the pros v cons for clen?

Contrary to popular belief it's not actually a steroid. It's a strong thermogenic, that helps to increase fat loss while in a calorie deficit and supposedly reduces lean muscle loss in this state. It's utterly useless for building muscle.

Comes with a long list of side effects, mostly affecting the heart. No thanks Jeff.

[Booney]

Do this shit :

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2014/03/11/11/07/brazilian-bodybuilder-is-risking-death-with-muscle-building-lethal-injections