The Ford Territory is a crossover SUV built by Ford Australia and based on the EA169 platform of the Ford BA Falcon. It was released in April 2004. Its code name inside Ford was E265. It won the 2004 Wheels Car of the Year award, the reviewers praising car-like handling and practicality as reasons for its win. Ford had reportedly spent A$500 million on developing the range over four years. Ford introduced the Territory alongside the existing Falcon wagon, which was built on the same production line. Ford Australia senior executives expected the Falcon wagon to be discontinued soon after the introduction of the Territory, surmising that Falcon wagon sales would substantially decline as fleet buyers migrated to the Territory. However, the two models co-existed for a while because the Falcon wagon retained much of its fleet sales base and the Territory appealed mainly to private buyers. However the Falcon stagon was culled.
Thats comparing the Falcon wagon and the Territory. They never released a wagon model in the FG range of Falcons (2008 - ). Id say they're just comparing them because they are larger than a normal Falcon. I reckon the Territory would be safe because its sold internationally, where as the Falcon is only sold outside of Australia and New Zealand on the rare occasion.
Going to be hard for any Australian car makers in the near future. China has started to improve its car manufacturing and will eventually be level with the Australians and cost half the price. 'money talks' so I think only the diehards will buy Ford and Holden which will probably spell the end for them.
Ive only ever owned Falcons, but once they get phased out, Id probably stick with Ford and get a base model Mustang imported. Costs about $24,000 US plus shipping which would be a few grand, then the conversion. Probably be about $40,000 all up but would still be good value. I would rather that than drive a Hyundai.
pafc1870 wrote:I'll have to find it when I get on my laptop, but Holden put out something the other day saying not to believe all you hear in the media, and that the commodore would be around until at least 2022
I remember reading that. I think they were talking about "a" Commodore in the future, whether its a 4cyl, front wheel drive, who knows. But Holden didn't rule it out of the equation.
They have a 10 year agreement with the Govt (signed April 2012) to keep manufacturing. Whether that's a Commodore or something else, time will tell.
The Ford Territory is a crossover SUV built by Ford Australia and based on the EA169 platform of the Ford BA Falcon. It was released in April 2004. Its code name inside Ford was E265. It won the 2004 Wheels Car of the Year award, the reviewers praising car-like handling and practicality as reasons for its win. Ford had reportedly spent A$500 million on developing the range over four years. Ford introduced the Territory alongside the existing Falcon wagon, which was built on the same production line. Ford Australia senior executives expected the Falcon wagon to be discontinued soon after the introduction of the Territory, surmising that Falcon wagon sales would substantially decline as fleet buyers migrated to the Territory. However, the two models co-existed for a while because the Falcon wagon retained much of its fleet sales base and the Territory appealed mainly to private buyers. However the Falcon stagon was culled.
Thats comparing the Falcon wagon and the Territory. They never released a wagon model in the FG range of Falcons (2008 - ). Id say they're just comparing them because they are larger than a normal Falcon. I reckon the Territory would be safe because its sold internationally, where as the Falcon is only sold outside of Australia and New Zealand on the rare occasion.
I was an avid Wheels mag reader when the Territory was rumoured to be in development. It was sole purpose was for the Australian market as the American crap they tried to force on us, the Explorer (or Exploder if you speak with Ford Mechanics) was a pile of crap and no local would buy it.
pafc1870 wrote:I'll have to find it when I get on my laptop, but Holden put out something the other day saying not to believe all you hear in the media, and that the commodore would be around until at least 2022
I remember reading that. I think they were talking about "a" Commodore in the future, whether its a 4cyl, front wheel drive, who knows. But Holden didn't rule it out of the equation.
They have a 10 year agreement with the Govt (signed April 2012) to keep manufacturing. Whether that's a Commodore or something else, time will tell.
I think they will start to push the Holden Cruze more
Wedgie wrote:Falcon will probably stop then too and thats been an icon in Australia much longer than the Commodore. On this topic someone suggested to me the other day that we should have a cars forum on here, do others think the demand would warrant it?
I was recently thinking that would be a good idea myself. I'd support it.
It is amazing how Australians have turned their backs on large sedans in favour of SUV's.
The Ford Falcon Ecoboost is a superb car. In this you have a 2.0ltr turbo four driving the rear wheels (rare in itself) which delivers excellent handling. It pumps out 179kw of power and 350nm of torque and can you can achieve fuel economy of less than 9ltrs per 100km. But if you want to hammer it you can clock 0-100km/h in under 7 seconds. It's a great engineering achievement.
westozfalcon wrote:It is amazing how Australians have turned their backs on large sedans in favour of SUV's.
The Ford Falcon Ecoboost is a superb car. In this you have a 2.0ltr turbo four driving the rear wheels (rare in itself) which delivers excellent handling. It pumps out 179kw of power and 350nm of torque and can you can achieve fuel economy of less than 9ltrs per 100km. But if you want to hammer it you can clock 0-100km/h in under 7 seconds. It's a great engineering achievement.
I'd have one over a thirsty Mazda CX7 any day.
yes can be achieved when the manufacture is testing it, very hard to achieve in everyday use. Car manufactures have been manipulating fuel economy for many years.
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westozfalcon wrote:It is amazing how Australians have turned their backs on large sedans in favour of SUV's.
The Ford Falcon Ecoboost is a superb car. In this you have a 2.0ltr turbo four driving the rear wheels (rare in itself) which delivers excellent handling. It pumps out 179kw of power and 350nm of torque and can you can achieve fuel economy of less than 9ltrs per 100km. But if you want to hammer it you can clock 0-100km/h in under 7 seconds. It's a great engineering achievement.
I'd have one over a thirsty Mazda CX7 any day.
yes can be achieved when the manufacture is testing it, very hard to achieve in everyday use. Car manufactures have been manipulating fuel economy for many years.
i can get 650kms out of my tank 2010 VE Series 2 berlina on premium fuel highway driving. promised 800kms on one tank from holdens, but far from it
dedja wrote:You can blame people like me for their demise.
I've owned 2 Commodores and let me just say they weren't the best cars I've owned.
Only have had Mazdas the past 10 years and the quality is light years away.
Am I sad for australian jobs ... yes, but I don't regret spending my money as I consider as wisely.
personal choice. I have owned 2 mazdas in my life and i reckon they were boxes of shit. Would take any car over them. Also the make believe 4WDs they make arent the best either. (you know, the 4WDs that are ONLY used to drop the kids off at school, and drive up their gravel driveway at home )
