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Re: submarines

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 9:55 am
by Booney
Sploosh wrote:Also chances will come up in a whole lot of unexpected ways. For instance, lots of new buildings and facilities need to be built now at Osborne, so surely a whole set of building companies/workers will get that work. I still think that the general 'vibe' this creates adds to business confidence and is great for our economy in intangible ways...


Agreed, stimulating the economy, even if centred on the Le Fevre Peninsula can only be a good thing.

Some friends who have several property's invested about 6 years ago in two places just off Victoria Rd, we looked at one that needed some work at the time and decided to keep the property we had. Friends might make a nice little earner from that decision.

So when will Aldi, Woolies or Coles take over the Drakes Foodland at North Haven you think?

Re: submarines

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:42 pm
by Jimmy_041
Jimmy_041 wrote:
stan wrote:Either way it will stop the bleeding of jobs in this state. If on top of that we can use SA steel then perhaps Arrium will be better off and the closure can be stopped. That would be good for Whyalla and SA in general.


Heard today Whyalla doesn't make that sort of steel but, as Sploosh says, hopefully there will be spin off civil and construction work that does
Anyway, Jays off to the south of France to sort it all out during their beautiful summer
Marty and he should eventually have 50m frequent flyer points to enjoy retirement


http://indaily.com.au/business/2016/04/ ... om-arrium/

Re: submarines

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:58 am
by Jim05
BUMP


The frogs sent packing and we are getting nuclear subs.
Will wait to see further details but my initial thoughts are positive. No doubt Brandt and his loons will be on the attack over it, did hear him refer to it as a “floating Chernobyl” but that’s expected from a nut job like him

Re: submarines

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:02 am
by Booney
Jim05 wrote:BUMP


The frogs sent packing and we are getting nuclear subs.
Will wait to see further details but my initial thoughts are positive. No doubt Brandt and his loons will be on the attack over it, did hear him refer to it as a “floating Chernobyl” but that’s expected from a nut job like him


Agreed, initial thoughts are this is massive news for SA, potentially a huge win for our economy and infrastructure going forward.

There's little doubt our defence capabilities will be increased, they have been getting increased for years out at the RAAF base ( HNA, Air 7000 etc ) and with that brings more defence personnel / more money and the flow on effect to subcontractors will only build.

I think it's great news.

Re: submarines

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:15 am
by heater31
Jim05 wrote:BUMP


The frogs sent packing and we are getting nuclear subs.
Will wait to see further details but my initial thoughts are positive. No doubt Brandt and his loons will be on the attack over it, did hear him refer to it as a “floating Chernobyl” but that’s expected from a nut job like him
Aren't the new ones based on a nuclear sub anyway? Why can't they just grab those drawings and get cracking to get these bloody things into the water!

Re: submarines

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:09 am
by Psyber
Booney wrote:
Jim05 wrote:BUMP

The frogs sent packing and we are getting nuclear subs.
Will wait to see further details but my initial thoughts are positive. No doubt Brandt and his loons will be on the attack over it, did hear him refer to it as a “floating Chernobyl” but that’s expected from a nut job like him


Agreed, initial thoughts are this is massive news for SA, potentially a huge win for our economy and infrastructure going forward.

There's little doubt our defence capabilities will be increased, they have been getting increased for years out at the RAAF base ( HNA, Air 7000 etc ) and with that brings more defence personnel / more money and the flow on effect to subcontractors will only build.

I think it's great news.

Sensible decision.
Nuclear subs are much more useful in their range and not having to surface so often.
We should have gone that route in the first place.
I'm happy the UK are involved not just the US.

Re: submarines

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:15 am
by stan
Psyber wrote:
Booney wrote:
Jim05 wrote:BUMP

The frogs sent packing and we are getting nuclear subs.
Will wait to see further details but my initial thoughts are positive. No doubt Brandt and his loons will be on the attack over it, did hear him refer to it as a “floating Chernobyl” but that’s expected from a nut job like him


Agreed, initial thoughts are this is massive news for SA, potentially a huge win for our economy and infrastructure going forward.

There's little doubt our defence capabilities will be increased, they have been getting increased for years out at the RAAF base ( HNA, Air 7000 etc ) and with that brings more defence personnel / more money and the flow on effect to subcontractors will only build.

I think it's great news.

Sensible decision.
Nuclear subs are much more useful in their range and not having to surface so often.
We should have gone that route in the first place.
I'm happy the UK are involved not just the US.
Not good news for the Naval group here in Adelaide. Set up offices at Keswick and Port Adelaide. Recruited fairly well here, and now need to ramp down.

Re: submarines

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:25 pm
by stan
350 works that you would assume wouldnt have jobs now.

Re: submarines

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:00 pm
by Jimmy_041
stan wrote:350 works that you would assume wouldnt have jobs now.


Wont they just go from speaking froggy to a southern drawl?

Re: submarines

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:30 pm
by tigerpie
Big news.
Have to feel for the naval group employees though.
Nuke such a better option.

Re: submarines

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:40 pm
by Psyber
stan wrote:
Psyber wrote:
Booney wrote:
Jim05 wrote:BUMP

The frogs sent packing and we are getting nuclear subs.
Will wait to see further details but my initial thoughts are positive. No doubt Brandt and his loons will be on the attack over it, did hear him refer to it as a “floating Chernobyl” but that’s expected from a nut job like him


Agreed, initial thoughts are this is massive news for SA, potentially a huge win for our economy and infrastructure going forward.

There's little doubt our defence capabilities will be increased, they have been getting increased for years out at the RAAF base ( HNA, Air 7000 etc ) and with that brings more defence personnel / more money and the flow on effect to subcontractors will only build.

I think it's great news.

Sensible decision.
Nuclear subs are much more useful in their range and not having to surface so often.
We should have gone that route in the first place.
I'm happy the UK are involved not just the US.
Not good news for the Naval group here in Adelaide. Set up offices at Keswick and Port Adelaide. Recruited fairly well here, and now need to ramp down.


I just got an email from the Premier's department saying how good it will be for the jobs in SA.
Apparently they have been advised a lot of the prep work will happen here.
Wait and see I guess...

Re: submarines

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:32 pm
by Jimmy_041
Psyber wrote:
I just got an email from the Premier's department saying how good it will be for the jobs in SA.
Apparently they have been advised a lot of the prep work will happen here.
Wait and see I guess...


From a good authority it is good news for SA and ASC

submarines

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:24 pm
by Jim05
Jimmy_041 wrote:
Psyber wrote:
I just got an email from the Premier's department saying how good it will be for the jobs in SA.
Apparently they have been advised a lot of the prep work will happen here.
Wait and see I guess...


From a good authority it is good news for SA and ASC
Yeah, was funny hearing that clown Malinauskas having a sook

Re: submarines

PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:06 am
by stan
It's interesting, it's almost like having a ship building facility in your own country is a good idea......when your a bloody island..

Interesting to see how this pans out. Using the technology from the US and UK and Built here. Australia looks like a good point to building a Indo-Pacific platform.

Re: submarines

PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:07 am
by stan
Jimmy_041 wrote:
stan wrote:350 works that you would assume wouldnt have jobs now.


Wont they just go from speaking froggy to a southern drawl?
Long term yes you would think.

Short term, no, they are simply out of a job until this thing gets going.

Re: submarines

PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:31 pm
by Dinglinga75
Will the subs be able to dock in Chinese leased Darwin docks ???

Re: submarines

PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 4:27 pm
by Jimmy_041
Dinglinga75 wrote:Will the subs be able to dock in Chinese leased Darwin docks ???


I wouldn't be surprised to see some change to that in the near future

Here's an interesting article about it: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-12/ ... k/10755720

I'm not 100% guaranteeing its correct considering the ABC's propensity to not be balanced but its pretty good reading

Re: submarines

PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2025 9:05 am
by Booney
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-amer ... 5myue.html

Liverpool: Australia will buy nuclear-powered submarines from the United States as planned under the AUKUS defence pact in the wake of a Pentagon review that is backing the vast project, according to a report from Nikkei Asia.

The Pentagon study is said to have endorsed the pact and will be finalised before Prime Minister Anthony Albanese flies to the US to meet US President Donald Trump on October 20.

Albanese declared in London on Friday that he was confident the AUKUS agreement would go ahead because his discussions with the Trump administration had given him this confidence.

But the Pentagon review has fuelled concerns about whether US President Donald Trump supports the key proposal to sell at least three Virginia-class submarines to Australia from the early 2030s.

Another plan under the pact is for the US to share nuclear-propulsion technology so the UK and Australia can work together on a new AUKUS-class submarine to arrive from the early 2040s.

“AUKUS is safe,” one official from a member country told Nikkei Asia.

It added that industrial delays might affect the delivery of the submarines but that no political decision had been made to alter the schedule.

This suggests the pact will proceed with the sale of three to five Virginia-class submarines to Australia from 2032. These vessels will be “secondhand” from the US Navy and will be nuclear-powered but not armed with nuclear weapons.

The defence pact, signed in 2021, commits Australia, the UK and the US to co-operating on a “pillar one” plan to build nuclear-powered submarines and a “pillar two” ambition for co-operation on defence science and technology.

British Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer reminded Trump of the importance of AUKUS during his state visit to the UK last week, while King Charles highlighted it in his address to a royal banquet in the president’s honour.

Albanese discussed the pact with Starmer in their talks in London and expressed his confidence in the plan when speaking to reporters afterwards.

“I have always been confident about AUKUS going ahead, and every meeting I’ve had and discussions I’ve had with people in the US administration have always been positive about AUKUS and about the role that it plays,” he said.

“It is happening. It is progressing. And it is progressing because it’s a good idea, and it’s progressing because it’s in the interests of all three nations, including the United States, the United Kingdom, and of course, Australia.”

Albanese spoke with British Defence Secretary John Healey on the sidelines of the UK Labour Party’s annual conference on Sunday. Healey signed an AUKUS treaty with Deputy Prime Minister and Defence Minister Richard Marles during a visit to Australia in July, demonstrating the UK’s commitment to the plan.

The Pentagon review, led by US Under Secretary of War for Policy Elbridge Colby, was announced in June and was initially meant to take 30 days.

The Washington Post reported this month that the US administration had assured Marles that the defence pact would continue. The Nikkei report is specific about the sale of the Virginia-class submarines.

The review was sparked in part by Pentagon concerns that US industry was not building new submarines quickly enough to justify the sale of existing vessels to Australia, raising concerns about a capability gap for the US Navy.

Any delay to the Virginia-class sale, however, opens a capability gap for the Royal Australian Navy while it waits for the delivery of the later AUKUS-class vessels.

Another US concern, raised by Colby, was that Australia would not pledge to deploy the Virginia-class vessels in any future conflict with China.

Albanese and Marles have not made any public commitment about how the submarines would be deployed.

Australia has pledged to contribute $5 billion towards the development of the US shipbuilding industry, something Marles highlighted with the first payment when he met Department of War Secretary Pete Hegseth earlier this year. A second payment was confirmed in July.

Australia has also promised to spend $5 billion on nuclear-propulsion systems in the UK and has made the first of these payments to Rolls-Royce, the company that builds the nuclear power systems for Royal Navy submarines.